A Duel of Fame
Transcribed from an off-the-cuff challenge to a ‘duel of fame’ between Rhys Hughes and DFL HERE.
RH: Here’s a duel proposition for you: I’ll choose myself as my own champion (because I’m an individualist)… Anyone who wishes to oppose me can nominate themselves.
Here are the duel terms: 50 years from now, who will be more famous?
The one who is the most famous is the winner.
RH: So, any takers? I’m in the arena right now…
DFL: I’m happy to take you up on that, Rhys. You may still be alive by then, but I shall be dead. So I shall have a flying start.
As I’m the challenger, it’s your right to choose the yardstick by which the ‘fame’ is to be judged. My suggestion is: Penguin Modern Classics. But it’s your call.
DFL: OK, Penguin Modern Classics or its equivalent if the former doesn’t exist or a better yardstick emerges (i.e. a replacement yardstick as deemed by a consensus of current RCMBers left alive at that time in 2060).
DFL: And if neither of us is famous by that yardstick, the duel is null immortalis.
RH: I accept Penguin Modern Classics.
50 years from now we must return to see who has won. The winner of the duel has won the dispute (we don’t have a dispute but we can create one later). Destiny always allows the person who is in the right to win a duel.
If we aren’t in a position to return 50 years from now, our reputations must return on our behalf.
DFL: OK, Rhys. (Did that cross with my previous post – if so I need your agreement to that correlative rider).
RH: Des, once a challenge has been issued and the challengee has agreed weapon’s and the challenger has confirmed, I think it’s too late to change. But I’ll check for you. One moment. I use Wilson.
DFL: Does it cover crossed posts prior to the agreement being finalised?
RH: Chapter III, Rule 2… “The old notion that the party challenged, was authorized to name the time, place, distance and weapon, has been long since exploded; nor would a man of chivalric honor use such a right, if he possessed it. The time must be as soon as practicable, the place such as had ordinarily been used where the parties are, the distance usual, and the weapons that which is most generally used, which, in this State, is the pistol.”
Interpreting this in the light of our modern situation (where pistol = Penguin Modern Classics) I would say it’s definitely too late to change now.
Hubert: Just don’t shoot each other in the back.
DFL: I am not changing anything, other than offering up at least a possibility that neither of us will become famous on the agreed criteria. Or both of us will!
I think we are in agreement. Good luck.
RH: Destiny has already chosen me for fame, Des. But it might have chosen you too, and that’s the factor I’m unaware of (which makes it a proper duel rather than a firing squad).
The question isn’t whether I’ll be famous 50 years from now (destiny has said yes, I will) but whether you will be MORE famous than me. If you are, you have won.
DFL: Well, anyway, good luck.
(If we’re both in Penguin Modern Classics, I assume we add up the respective wordage in there and the one with the biggest wins the duel).
RH: Well, that depends. We have a choice of wordage, forewords or blurbs. Do you want to choose formally?
DFL: It’ll make it easier for others to have a scientific basis (i.e. wordage) to use rather than a subjective one (assessing forewords or blurbs).
I say this in the full knowledge that your works are invariably bigger in size than mine.
(I am also knowingly abandoning any weight thrown into the balance of Fame provided by the legacy of ‘Nemonymous’).
RH: Accepted, Des, we’ll go for wordage.
Thursday, 18 February 2010 5:38 pm
Well other than some Spanish bullfight mentioned by Hemingway that I cannot find details about. The Rhys / DFL duel is certainly the first duel ever that takes its winner into territory that is retrocausal – beyond even “to the death”.
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At link immediately above, is my possible first step in winning this duel. 😉
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